Comments on: street light http://betterinprint.wordpress.com/2008/12/08/street-light/ A photographic print discussion group Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:15:02 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Kjell Harald http://betterinprint.wordpress.com/2008/12/08/street-light/#comment-40 Kjell Harald Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:49:58 +0000 http://betterinprint.wordpress.com/?p=77#comment-40 Hi Martin, the last thing you commented was a very good description of something I couldn't quite find the words for myself. I will look into that, because I really find the picture more satisfying on screen than on paper. The problem is that it is impossible to fix things like that unless you are aware of what is causing the difference. Thanks! Hi Martin, the last thing you commented was a very good description of something I couldn’t quite find the words for myself. I will look into that, because I really find the picture more satisfying on screen than on paper. The problem is that it is impossible to fix things like that unless you are aware of what is causing the difference.

Thanks!

]]> By: doonster http://betterinprint.wordpress.com/2008/12/08/street-light/#comment-39 doonster Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:30:16 +0000 http://betterinprint.wordpress.com/?p=77#comment-39 I don't see any colour shift at all. It does appear somewhat darker on the right in print than on-screen. Not a major problem but some of the detail of the foliage is lost. A more distinct difference is in the way the halo from the light works. On screen it is like a fine mist, gently petering out - a nice smooth tonal shift. In the print is is much more abrupt. The light, therefore, seems quite a lot harsher ithout the subtle glow that seems to come in the screen version. This effect also seems independent of viewing distance (from a few inches to a few meters). I don’t see any colour shift at all. It does appear somewhat darker on the right in print than on-screen. Not a major problem but some of the detail of the foliage is lost.
A more distinct difference is in the way the halo from the light works. On screen it is like a fine mist, gently petering out – a nice smooth tonal shift. In the print is is much more abrupt. The light, therefore, seems quite a lot harsher ithout the subtle glow that seems to come in the screen version. This effect also seems independent of viewing distance (from a few inches to a few meters).

]]> By: Kjell Harald http://betterinprint.wordpress.com/2008/12/08/street-light/#comment-38 Kjell Harald Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:36:31 +0000 http://betterinprint.wordpress.com/?p=77#comment-38 It could just as well be my lighting that is fooling me. Or me not being as sensitive to the small color shift. It could just as well be my lighting that is fooling me. Or me not being as sensitive to the small color shift.

]]> By: M J http://betterinprint.wordpress.com/2008/12/08/street-light/#comment-37 M J Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:42:37 +0000 http://betterinprint.wordpress.com/?p=77#comment-37 It might be the light, I was watching it under mixed light (incandescent main light + 6500K fluorescent desk light). I'll watch it again tomorrow during the day ;) It might be the light, I was watching it under mixed light (incandescent main light + 6500K fluorescent desk light). I’ll watch it again tomorrow during the day ;)

]]> By: Kjell Harald http://betterinprint.wordpress.com/2008/12/08/street-light/#comment-35 Kjell Harald Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:35:28 +0000 http://betterinprint.wordpress.com/?p=77#comment-35 This photo has not been manipulated much at all. Everything is done in Lightroom. I did burn in the parts at the road, the light part in the background, and the out of focus leaves at the upper left. Apart from that, I only did a minor adjustment to the exposure, brightness and contrast. Wait... I did some small tweaks to the curve as well, a slight s-shape, but not much. The output sharpen was done using the Lightroom sharpening for matt paper, normal setting, and that's it. I surprises me that you see the print as green toned. I do see the violet tint in Martins print, but I can't see the green here. It should be neutral. It might have something to do with the difference in viewing light. This photo has not been manipulated much at all. Everything is done in Lightroom.
I did burn in the parts at the road, the light part in the background, and the out of focus leaves at the upper left. Apart from that, I only did a minor adjustment to the exposure, brightness and contrast. Wait… I did some small tweaks to the curve as well, a slight s-shape, but not much.
The output sharpen was done using the Lightroom sharpening for matt paper, normal setting, and that’s it.

I surprises me that you see the print as green toned. I do see the violet tint in Martins print, but I can’t see the green here. It should be neutral. It might have something to do with the difference in viewing light.

]]> By: M J http://betterinprint.wordpress.com/2008/12/08/street-light/#comment-34 M J Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:04:00 +0000 http://betterinprint.wordpress.com/?p=77#comment-34 So... first of all, I have to say that I love Hahnemuhle papers! This one specificallly is extraordinary I think, how it spreads the light, and how it feels under your fingers. All in all, I can't find any remark here, so good job! Maybe you can share with us how you prepared the print? For example, sharpening, curves and so on... I'm also noticing now that your print is on the green tones, while Martin's has some violet in its grays. So… first of all, I have to say that I love Hahnemuhle papers! This one specificallly is extraordinary I think, how it spreads the light, and how it feels under your fingers. All in all, I can’t find any remark here, so good job!

Maybe you can share with us how you prepared the print? For example, sharpening, curves and so on…

I’m also noticing now that your print is on the green tones, while Martin’s has some violet in its grays.

]]> By: Kjell Harald http://betterinprint.wordpress.com/2008/12/08/street-light/#comment-32 Kjell Harald Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:32:00 +0000 http://betterinprint.wordpress.com/?p=77#comment-32 Deadline the day before x-mast, sounds familiar. Good luck with the project. Deadline the day before x-mast, sounds familiar.
Good luck with the project.

]]> By: M J http://betterinprint.wordpress.com/2008/12/08/street-light/#comment-31 M J Tue, 09 Dec 2008 22:02:43 +0000 http://betterinprint.wordpress.com/?p=77#comment-31 i'm seeing some interesting pictures here! nice bw, and i'm very curious how all those tones will turn out in the printed version. unfortunately, as i'm having a very busy period at work (we have to finish a project by dec 23rd) with hardly any free time i won't probably be able to send my pictures before that day. you will get them as a nice new year present i guess ;) and since it looks like this will be a bw exchange, i will do my best to choose a bw picture in the next days! i’m seeing some interesting pictures here! nice bw, and i’m very curious how all those tones will turn out in the printed version.

unfortunately, as i’m having a very busy period at work (we have to finish a project by dec 23rd) with hardly any free time i won’t probably be able to send my pictures before that day. you will get them as a nice new year present i guess ;) and since it looks like this will be a bw exchange, i will do my best to choose a bw picture in the next days!

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